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Following the notability guideline merge proposal discussion, the consensus appeared to be that rather than going for a whole scale merge, that individual merges and rewrites might be more appropriate. As such the merge tags have changed, and rather than proposing that Notability (people), (pornographic actors) and (academics) be merged into Notability, it is proposed that (pornographic actors) and (academics) are merged into (people). The reasoning being that porn actors and academics are people, so one tidy set of guidelines can be drawn up to accommodate them. SilkTork *SilkyTalk 23:08, 23 September 2007 (UTC)Reply[reply]

And back to the point of this talk page: I do not think a merger is appropriate. Notable porno actor are a special case of an intellectual dead end because, like most criminals, they are, as a group, dumb. At least studying the biographies of academia might lead one to further fields of knowledge-rich study. For a non-Wikipedia example, see MacTutor History of Mathematics archive. These biographies implicitly lead one to study the mathematical concepts that they otherwise might find too dull to pursue. We should eventually take pedigological considerations into account when formulating our policies. We should be leading our readers to further knowledge as well as to further masturbation. The former task requires more wisdom on our part than the latter. I mean, where is a hooker going to lead you? To the library or to the saloon? Again, many people who notable for their intellectual accomplishments represents ideas. OK, maybe not chess players or prodigious mental calculators, but people who created new knowledge represent that idea. They can also be a rich index into those concepts. Any person of average intelligence and curiosity wants to better understand how Einstein, Edison and Mozart came to their greatest accomplishments. We should remember the intellectually creative person and, the whole life in its major features. Who does not feel that they understand Jimmy Wales better once they see his W bio and see the details of his whole life? It is analogous to striving to include whole-grain foods in one's diet: biographies of the knowledge creators is better and richer pathway that leads to a deeper understand of "what happened" during the creative process.

I am an inclusionist. I do not really care if there are 10 or 100 times as many porn star bios as academic bios at Wikipedia. I am an adult and I can just ignore the porno stars. If the sexual maniacs get their rocks off on the porno, well... I cannot stop that. After all, there are those who claim that The internet is for porn. Are we just paying lip service to the notion that Wikipedia is about "education" (and not just sex eduation)? I just want a many more academic biographies simply because it is better pedagogy and leads to better education and greater acquisition of knowledge on the part of our readers. 2b1af7f3a8